• The Decline of PCs

    From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Thu Dec 25 08:00:00 2025
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Wednesday 24.12.25 - 11:39, Nightfox wrote to Ogg:

    Yes.. I recall print lessons, in Gr1 and cursive writing in about Gr3.
    But my point is that we never got "speed" classes in writing. Some kids
    continued to hold their pencils strangely. As long as you could form the
    letter/word that was required, that's all that mattered. So, as long as
    a student can find the write key on a kb (whether you hunt and peck or
    use another method) that's all that matters.

    I don't think speed writing was ever a thing - I thnk it's difficult to write fast by hand and still be legible. Speed is more of a thing with typing.

    I took a Forkner Shorthand class in highshool. It was a good
    investment. It really helped keeping up with the notes that
    university profs projected on screen (and did not hand out
    copies of) ..and for generally documenting what the prof was
    saying.


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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Thu Dec 25 09:07:35 2025
    But.. today, laptops and tablets are already a common "tool" in
    >> many classes. It's probably why we never got "handwriting" or
    >> "how to use a pen" courses before then! :D

    We did but I think that was in Grade 1.. B)

    But.. today, young kids get advance access to laptops/tablets.

    My Niece's kids were both very skillfully using Tablets before
    they were even in school. Apparently you can play online games
    even if you can't read..

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Thu Dec 25 09:07:35 2025
    A lot of people worry about parking documents online somewhere.
    I was doing it for a while, using encrypted files for docs that
    had any personal info in them, but I've mostly just gone back
    to doing direct transfers via Bluetooth.

    RCLONE offers encryption. And.. your sister might like to get
    >into the habit of copying to portable USB storage.

    But you never think to back up the one thing you end up needing. B)

    I was using Sync.com for quite a while since it is encrypted online
    and further encrypts when files travel in either direction, and
    it's also all located in Canada rather than Lord knows where.

    But in recent months they updated things and it acts up on my main
    Windows 7 Laptop (in theory the update won't work on anything below
    Windows 10) so I went looking for another way to do things.

    I have 5 Cloud accounts through various Microsoft programs and my
    3 eMail accounts, etc., so I could use it more if I needed to..

    Looking briefly at the RClone info online it appears to be a
    tool to Handle other Cloud accounts and your devices rather
    than being a cloud storage system itself, although I'd imagine
    it must offer some degree of that..

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Thu Dec 25 09:07:35 2025
    >> It's probably why we never got "handwriting" or "how to use
    >> a pen" courses before then! :D

    We did but I think that was in Grade 1.. B)

    I was thinking that as well.. We do learn to write in elementary school.

    Funny, I remember in Grade 3 I think the teacher saying my handwriting
    was so bad that I had to recopy all my notes in one subject..

    I later figured out that what she was doing was getting me to study
    my notes to get better marks in the subject, but I further learned
    that you can copy text all day long while being 'vegged out' and
    you don't retain anything of it.. B)

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Rob Mccart on Thu Dec 25 10:56:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Thursday 25.12.25 - 09:07, Rob Mccart wrote to OGG:

    RCLONE offers encryption. And.. your sister might like to get
    into the habit of copying to portable USB storage.

    But you never think to back up the one thing you end up needing. B)

    I basically use "rlone sync" at the top level My Documents
    every once in a while. The process traverses the whole sub-
    tree and only sends the latest/newest files. Mind you, the
    first use of the transfer took a while since My Documents is
    several GB. But now, occassional use goes much faster.

    Looking briefly at the RClone info online it appears to be
    a tool to Handle other Cloud accounts and your devices
    rather than being a cloud storage system itself, although
    I'd imagine it must offer some degree of that..

    Yep. I use it in conjunction with the free Proton Drive, and
    with the free space my own domain server offers.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Rob Mccart on Thu Dec 25 10:59:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Thursday 25.12.25 - 09:07, Rob Mccart wrote to NIGHTFOX:

    Funny, I remember in Grade 3 I think the teacher saying my
    handwriting was so bad that I had to recopy all my notes
    in one subject..

    I'd take notes in Forkner shorthand in class, and later in my
    residence room rewrite it into full form. That helped in the
    "study" method.


    I later figured out that what she was doing was getting me
    to study my notes to get better marks in the subject, but

    See above.


    I further learned that you can copy text all day long
    while being 'vegged out' and you don't retain anything of
    it.. B)

    Yeah.. I can imagine a rebel take that stance. :D


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Thu Dec 25 11:02:17 2025
    Re: The Decline of PCs
    By: Ogg to Nightfox on Thu Dec 25 2025 08:00 am

    I don't think speed writing was ever a thing - I thnk it's difficult to
    write fast by hand and still be legible. Speed is more of a thing with
    typing.

    I took a Forkner Shorthand class in highshool. It was a good investment. It really helped keeping up with the notes that university profs projected on screen (and did not hand out copies of) ..and for generally documenting what the prof was saying.

    I didn't have any shorthand classes in school, and I didn't know standardized shorthand was actually a thing.. I had my own shorthand I sometimes used for notes, which worked for me because I understood what I had written.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rob Mccart on Thu Dec 25 11:05:15 2025
    Re: The Decline of PCs
    By: Rob Mccart to NIGHTFOX on Thu Dec 25 2025 09:07 am

    I was thinking that as well.. We do learn to write in elementary school.

    Funny, I remember in Grade 3 I think the teacher saying my handwriting was so bad that I had to recopy all my notes in one subject..

    I later figured out that what she was doing was getting me to study my notes to get better marks in the subject, but I further learned that you can copy text all day long while being 'vegged out' and you don't retain anything of it.. B)

    :) That's a clever strategy from the teacher.

    When I learned cursive (in 4th grade), I remember learning that teachers & instructors in later years would want us to use cursive for basically all of our writing. So I tended to write in cursive after that. When I was in 7th grade, my English teacher said he wanted me to switch to writing in regular (non-cursive) writing because he had a hard time reading my cursive. :) So then I decided to never use cursive again (except for signing my name).

    Nightfox

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Thu Dec 25 13:38:08 2025
    Re: The Decline of PCs
    By: Nightfox to Ogg on Thu Dec 25 2025 11:02 am

    shorthand was actually a thing.. I had my own shorthand I sometimes used fo notes, which worked for me because I understood what I had written.

    Did you ever actually read your notes?

    The only reason I ever took notes in school, which I quickly stopped by the way, was because I saw other people doing it. I never went back to read those notes and all I had to do was listen to the teacher blab about whatever it was. Maybe notes were for people that didn't want to pay attention? I dunno. I liked cracking jokes at/during the 'lessons'.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to phigan on Fri Dec 26 05:49:09 2025
    Re: The Decline of PCs
    By: phigan to Nightfox on Thu Dec 25 2025 01:38 pm

    shorthand was actually a thing.. I had my own shorthand I sometimes used
    fo notes, which worked for me because I understood what I had written.

    Did you ever actually read your notes?

    The only reason I ever took notes in school, which I quickly stopped by the way, was because I saw other people doing it. I never went back to read those notes and all I had to do was listen to the teacher blab about whatever it was. Maybe notes were for people that didn't want to pay attention? I dunno. I liked cracking jokes at/during the 'lessons'.

    I did read my notes, usually. For me, they were useful for remindming me of things while doing my homework or studying. For math, for instance, sometimes I'd be working on homework and look at my notes and remember a technique or something the teacher mentioned. Or sometimes, I'd look at my past notes when studying for tests, and I'd study the main things the teacher taught us so that hopefully I'd remember those things when taking the test. Sometimes, the teachers would also specifically have a lesson preparing us for what was going to be on a test, so I'd be sure to take notes then.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ROB MCCART on Fri Dec 26 11:49:40 2025
    I got quite a few machines over the years when I was working on computer repair and updates. People I'd helped out would give me their old
    machines for free when they upgraded. Usually I could upgrade those
    a little and get a few more years out of them.

    I got a couple that way. I usually fixed those up and gave they to family members.

    One time I got a desktop computer that was only a couple of years old
    which had originally cost about $4500. It was a lot better than my
    computer was and looked like the deal of a lifetime. The guy I got
    it from said it was constantly overheating and they were fed up
    with it stopping in the middle of big jobs.

    I thought I was going to luck out because I immediately noticed
    that the main fan in the back of the system was not running, and
    further checking showed that it had needed an adaptor to hook up
    to the motherboard which was never installed. I fixed it and
    played with it some but eventually it seemed that the overheating
    had damaged the motherboard too and, long story short, I ended
    up mainly using it for parts rather than rebuild a machine that
    was a lot bigger and faster than I really needed..

    That is too bad. Would have been nice if you could have got away with replacing or plugging the fan back in.

    I had a machine I used for a few years that I found sitting out on garbage
    day. Not sure what, if anything, the previous owner thought was wrong with
    it, other than it had Win XP on it, which was a little old at the time. It seemed to be working fine. I eventually put Linux on it and got a few more years out of it.

    Mike

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Rob Mccart on Fri Dec 26 08:52:26 2025
    Rob Mccart wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-

    I got quite a few machines over the years when I was working on
    computer repair and updates. People I'd helped out would give me their
    old machines for free when they upgraded. Usually I could upgrade those
    a little and get a few more years out of them.

    The golden age for me was my first corporate job. My boss really wasn't
    technically minded and made bad decisions. Modems that didn't error
    correct ended up in a box in a storage room. AT-based cash register
    systems lasted a few months before the 386-based systems came out. Lots
    of one-off systems like an Olivetti PC and a Compaq Portable II they
    tried out and ditched.

    When I was asked to clean out the storage room and toss everything in
    the "dumpster", it felt like Christmas day to me. :)




    One time I got a desktop computer that was only a couple of years old which had originally cost about $4500. It was a lot better than my computer was and looked like the deal of a lifetime. The guy I got
    it from said it was constantly overheating and they were fed up
    with it stopping in the middle of big jobs.

    I thought I was going to luck out because I immediately noticed
    that the main fan in the back of the system was not running, and
    further checking showed that it had needed an adaptor to hook up
    to the motherboard which was never installed. I fixed it and
    played with it some but eventually it seemed that the overheating
    had damaged the motherboard too and, long story short, I ended
    up mainly using it for parts rather than rebuild a machine that
    was a lot bigger and faster than I really needed..

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Fri Dec 26 08:52:26 2025
    Ogg wrote to Rob Mccart <=-

    We did but I think that was in Grade 1.. B)

    But.. today, young kids get advance access to laptops/tablets.

    We're one step closer to Idiocracy evey day - pushing icons on a touch
    screen.



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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Sat Dec 27 09:09:33 2025
    I basically use "rlone sync" at the top level My Documents
    >every once in a while. The process traverses the whole sub-
    >tree and only sends the latest/newest files. Mind you, the
    >first use of the transfer took a while since My Documents is
    >several GB. But now, occassional use goes much faster.

    That sounds pretty good. I had a similar option with Sync.com
    if I wanted to install the App to automate what ends up on it
    using the one folder and sub-folders.

    I saw there is a free version of RClone.. Is that what you are
    using or a better paid option?

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Sat Dec 27 09:09:33 2025
    Funny, I remember in Grade 3 I think the teacher saying my
    handwriting was so bad that I had to recopy all my notes
    in one subject..

    I'd take notes in Forkner shorthand in class, and later in my
    >residence room rewrite it into full form. That helped in the
    >"study" method.

    In Grade 3 ? B)

    I never learned short hand, never saw a need. My sister took it
    in school, and typing, but not I..

    I further learned that you can copy text all day long
    while being 'vegged out' and you don't retain anything of
    it.. B)

    Yeah.. I can imagine a rebel take that stance. :D

    I wasn't actually trying to not learn anything, I was just copying
    the words without really reading them..

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sat Dec 27 09:09:33 2025
    I didn't have any shorthand classes in school, and I didn't know standardized
    >orthand was actually a thing.. I had my own shorthand I sometimes used for n
    >s, which worked for me because I understood what I had written.

    I do that too.. and then a while later I have to try to sort out what
    I was trying to say.. B)

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sat Dec 27 09:09:33 2025
    When I learned cursive (in 4th grade), I remember learning that teachers & in
    >uctors in later years would want us to use cursive for basically all of our w
    >ing. So I tended to write in cursive after that. When I was in 7th grade, m
    >nglish teacher said he wanted me to switch to writing in regular (non-cursive
    >riting because he had a hard time reading my cursive. :) So then I decided
    >never use cursive again (except for signing my name).

    I haven't done anything but Print since I left school, other than for a signature. My writing wasn't too terrible but I just didn't stick with it. Possibly some can write a lot faster than they can print things out but
    I find that speed means sloppy, regardless of what I use..

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHIGAN on Sat Dec 27 09:09:33 2025
    Did you ever actually read your notes?

    The only reason I ever took notes in school, which I quickly stopped by the
    >way, was because I saw other people doing it. I never went back to read those
    >notes and all I had to do was listen to the teacher blab about whatever it wa
    >Maybe notes were for people that didn't want to pay attention? I dunno. I lik
    >cracking jokes at/during the 'lessons'.

    You have a point there.. I didn't take too many notes and, when exams
    were coming, I saw it as an opportunity to get a lot more hours at work
    when everyone else wanted time off. I never really studied and mostly
    only did homework that was going to be checked or was worth marks.

    I remember when the SAT's were coming up in grade 12 I was getting
    hours and hours of overtime while everyone else was taking sample
    tests or hiring tutors to get better marks for University placement.

    My best friend at the time said I was crazy to not be studying hours
    and hours after school but, in the end, I scored a 94 percentile so I
    guess I didn't really need it. (Think 1500 on max 1600 SAT's in USA)

    My friend was especially miffed about that since I scored a lot
    higher than he did.. B)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rob Mccart on Sat Dec 27 11:06:39 2025
    Re: The Decline of PCs
    By: Rob Mccart to NIGHTFOX on Sat Dec 27 2025 09:09 am

    I haven't done anything but Print since I left school, other than for a signature. My writing wasn't too terrible but I just didn't stick with it. Possibly some can write a lot faster than they can print things out but I find that speed means sloppy, regardless of what I use..

    One of the arguments my 7th-grade English teacher said when telling me not to use cursive anymore was that it's actually quicker to write with standard print than with cursive because there are fewer strokes you need to make.

    Nightfox

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DUMAS WALKER on Sun Dec 28 08:09:11 2025
    One time I got a desktop computer that was only a couple of years old
    >> which had originally cost about $4500. It was a lot better than my
    >> computer was and looked like the deal of a lifetime.
    >> I thought I was going to luck out because I immediately noticed
    >> that the main fan in the back of the system was not running, and
    >> further checking showed that it had needed an adaptor to hook up
    >> to the motherboard which was never installed. I fixed it and
    >> played with it some but eventually it seemed that the overheating
    >> had damaged the motherboard too and, long story short, I ended
    >> up mainly using it for parts rather than rebuild a machine that
    >> was a lot bigger and faster than I really needed..

    That is too bad. Would have been nice if you could have got away with
    >replacing or plugging the fan back in.

    I did replace the fan right away, but the system would spontaneously
    reboot without notice every once in a while which caused more trouble
    than it was worth, and a new motherboard would not have been cheap
    to give me a computer far more powerful than I really needed.

    I had a machine I used for a few years that I found sitting out on garbage
    >day. Not sure what, if anything, the previous owner thought was wrong with
    >it, other than it had Win XP on it, which was a little old at the time. It
    >seemed to be working fine. I eventually put Linux on it and got a few more
    >years out of it.

    I put one working computer out on garbage day long ago just because it
    was older and not worth much. In the past couple of years I cleaned
    out a lot of my old spare systems and a number of machines that needed
    only one relatively inexpensive part got 'recycled' too. At some point
    you have to stop hoarding everything you outgrow or take in or buy
    a bigger house.. B)

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun Dec 28 08:09:11 2025
    The golden age for me was my first corporate job. My boss really wasn't
    > technically minded and made bad decisions. Modems that didn't error
    > correct ended up in a box in a storage room. AT-based cash register
    > systems lasted a few months before the 386-based systems came out. Lots
    > of one-off systems like an Olivetti PC and a Compaq Portable II they
    > tried out and ditched.

    When I was asked to clean out the storage room and toss everything in
    > the "dumpster", it felt like Christmas day to me. :)

    One of my best and oldest friends worked for CN/CP Telecom, which
    later became Sprint in Canada and he was their main computer guy.
    He had access to all their equipment that became obsolete or
    unsuitable for some reason. He always came up with good parts and
    used systems to give me when we got together..

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ROB MCCART on Sun Dec 28 09:42:39 2025
    I put one working computer out on garbage day long ago just because it
    was older and not worth much. In the past couple of years I cleaned
    out a lot of my old spare systems and a number of machines that needed
    only one relatively inexpensive part got 'recycled' too. At some point
    you have to stop hoarding everything you outgrow or take in or buy
    a bigger house.. B)

    No joke. I eventually went to parting out and/or e-cycling most of what I
    had around. I few old cases became risers on my basement floor. A mini
    fridge sits on an empty old pentium case, for example. :D

    Mike


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Rob Mccart on Sun Dec 28 10:28:00 2025
    Hello Rob Mccart!

    ** On Saturday 27.12.25 - 09:09, Rob Mccart wrote to OGG:

    I'd take notes in Forkner shorthand in class, and later in my
    residence room rewrite it into full form. That helped in the
    "study" method.

    In Grade 3 ? B)

    Of course not. Forkner was in highshool, pre-computer, post-
    cursive.


    I never learned short hand, never saw a need. My sister
    took it in school, and typing, but not I..

    Short-hand was kinda fun. It was easy to document someone's
    full converstation. I took typing too - that served at
    university as well since home computers were still not common
    then.

    One student in my univ. residence had the habit of transcribing
    his handwritten notes in class to type-written notes. That
    seemed to be a fine way to revisit/study one's notes.


    I further learned that you can copy text all day long
    while being 'vegged out' and you don't retain anything of
    it.. B)

    Yeah.. I can imagine a rebel take that stance. :D

    I wasn't actually trying to not learn anything, I was just
    copying the words without really reading them..

    I knew student that would often fall asleep in class. But he
    seemed to pull things off and got high grades and went on for a
    Masters.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Rob Mccart on Sun Dec 28 10:32:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Saturday 27.12.25 - 09:09, Rob Mccart wrote to OGG:

    I basically use "rlone sync" at the top level My Documents
    every once in a while. The process traverses the whole sub-


    That sounds pretty good. I had a similar option with
    Sync.com if I wanted to install the App to automate what
    ends up on it using the one folder and sub-folders.

    Rclone doesn't require any special "app" or web-interface/
    login. It's just a new cmd-line tool.


    I saw there is a free version of RClone.. Is that what you
    are using or a better paid option?

    I am only aware of one, free:

    https://rclone.org/downloads/




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Dec 28 13:29:57 2025
    Re: Re: The Decline of PCs
    By: Dumas Walker to ROB MCCART on Sun Dec 28 2025 09:42 am

    I put one working computer out on garbage day long ago
    just because it was older and not worth much. In the past couple
    of years I cleaned out a lot of my old spare systems and a number
    of machines that needed only one relatively inexpensive part got 'recycled' too. At some point you have to stop hoarding everything
    you outgrow or take in or buy a bigger house.. B)

    No joke. I eventually went to parting out and/or e-cycling most of
    what I had around. I few old cases became risers on my basement
    floor. A mini fridge sits on an empty old pentium case, for example.
    :D



    when i was a kid my dream was to have a room full of 7 ft tables with computers on them. now that i'm old i got rid of most of my computers. i'm just running one and i have 2 or 2 in a tub.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to MRO on Mon Dec 29 09:07:50 2025
    No joke. I eventually went to parting out and/or e-cycling most of
    what I had around. I few old cases became risers on my basement
    floor. A mini fridge sits on an empty old pentium case, for example.
    :D

    when i was a kid my dream was to have a room full of 7 ft tables with computers on them. now that i'm old i got rid of most of my computers. i'm just running one and i have 2 or 2 in a tub.

    Yeah, I remember thinking something like that would be a neat idea. Now,
    what I could plan to do with all of those machines, who knows?!? :D


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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Mon Dec 29 08:12:05 2025
    I haven't done anything but Print since I left school, other than for a signature.

    One of the arguments my 7th-grade English teacher said when telling me not
    >to use cursive anymore was that it's actually quicker to write with standard
    >print than with cursive because there are fewer strokes you need to make.

    That would be true of what I think of as True cursive. A lot of extra
    ink in almost every character.. Plain writing would go a lot faster but
    most people who use it get sloppy with speed and it gets harder to read.
    At least with printing most people can make out what you were saying.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Rob Mccart on Tue Dec 30 06:12:03 2025
    Re: The Decline of PCs
    By: Rob Mccart to OGG on Thu Dec 25 2025 09:07 am


    Looking briefly at the RClone info online it appears to be a
    tool to Handle other Cloud accounts and your devices rather
    than being a cloud storage system itself, although I'd imagine
    it must offer some degree of that..

    Rclone is just a tool for moving data in and out of any supported storage backend. This can be your FTP server, some mainstream cloud provider, or whatever have you.

    Rclone does not provide storage itself.


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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DUMAS WALKER on Tue Dec 30 08:40:10 2025
    In the past couple of years I cleaned
    >> out a lot of my old spare systems and a number of machines that needed
    >> only one relatively inexpensive part got 'recycled' too. At some point
    >> you have to stop hoarding everything you outgrow or take in or buy
    >> a bigger house.. B)

    No joke. I eventually went to parting out and/or e-cycling most of what I
    >had around. I few old cases became risers on my basement floor. A mini
    >fridge sits on an empty old pentium case, for example. :D

    Ha.. For ages I had a huge Server system with 5 full sized bays but
    the hardware eventually got too old to mess with anymore and for
    a number of years it ended up being an end table beside my main
    computer desk. Sitting on the floor it was as tall as the desk.

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Tue Dec 30 08:40:10 2025
    One student in my univ. residence had the habit of transcribing
    >his handwritten notes in class to type-written notes. That
    >seemed to be a fine way to revisit/study one's notes.

    I never seemed to have time to do things once, let along twice.. B)

    I knew student that would often fall asleep in class. But he
    >seemed to pull things off and got high grades and went on for a
    >Masters.

    Ha.. I once had a chemistry teacher yell at me in class that I
    shouldn't disturb the other students because not everyone can
    get 80's on tests without paying attention.. B)

    My disturbing the class was when I yelped when the guy beside
    me took a hot Bunsen Burner and laid it across the back of my
    hand as a 'joke'. I didn't turn him in but I ended up with a
    wicked blister on my hand. He apologized later saying he didn't
    think it had been quite that hot..

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Rob Mccart on Thu Jan 1 09:39:26 2026
    Rob Mccart wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-

    Ha.. For ages I had a huge Server system with 5 full sized bays but
    the hardware eventually got too old to mess with anymore and for
    a number of years it ended up being an end table beside my main
    computer desk. Sitting on the floor it was as tall as the desk.

    One of the BBS's systems in the 90s was a cast-off 486 server that came
    in a desktop case as tall as a table. Locking front door, some unreal
    number of 5 1/4" drive bays, and casters to move it around. I don't
    think I had more than a single IDE drive and a tape drive in it.

    I should have kept the case...



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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Jan 3 09:35:57 2026
    Ha.. For ages I had a huge Server system with 5 full sized bays but
    the hardware eventually got too old to mess with anymore and for
    a number of years it ended up being an end table beside my main
    computer desk. Sitting on the floor it was as tall as the desk.

    One of the BBS's systems in the 90s was a cast-off 486 server that came
    >in a desktop case as tall as a table. Locking front door, some unreal
    >number of 5 1/4" drive bays, and casters to move it around. I don't
    >think I had more than a single IDE drive and a tape drive in it.

    Sounds similar to mine, although I didn't have casters on mine or a
    locking front door. Mine was a 386 system originally. I would have
    had two 5.25 floppy drives in it and I think a 32 meg (updated from
    a 10 meg) hard drive. I remember having to custom make my own cables
    so I could get a Mouse to work on it..

    This would have been around 1988 or 89.

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